Lynne Miller

[00:00:00] Speaker A: That was the Last Farewell by Roger Whitaker sounding very much like I Love Him Dearly by Webb Pierce. Well, we've got Lynn Miller in the studio from Rockingham, Will. And we're going to have a little chat with her in a minute. We'll just coming to you from Rockingham, IPL Radio. Welcome to IPL Radio, Lynn. [00:00:22] Speaker B: Thank you, Alan. It's good to be here again. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it has been a little while. [00:00:25] Speaker B: It has been a bit of changes happening and going on, huh? [00:00:28] Speaker A: Yes. Haven't been to any more visits to Kenya in the meantime. [00:00:32] Speaker B: Too busy writing the book. Have said no to everything. Okay, doing my second draft and I just really need to get this finished. [00:00:40] Speaker A: It's in the second draft, is it? Y. Oh, wow. So are we allowed to know the title? [00:00:46] Speaker B: It's called Eternity Now. [00:00:47] Speaker A: Eternity Now. Very good. I can relate to that. [00:00:52] Speaker B: Yes. [00:00:52] Speaker A: Yep. Be looking forward to reading it when it comes out. [00:00:57] Speaker B: Well, see, I'm looking forward to finishing it so you can read it. [00:01:00] Speaker A: So is it being published here in Western Australia? [00:01:02] Speaker B: I, I've got a whole lot of different things that information people have given me, so. Because I, I'm just praying through that, looking into the way and just feeling out. [00:01:12] Speaker A: Right. [00:01:13] Speaker B: You can actually start one way and then just to get it out there and then go another way if you want to. [00:01:18] Speaker A: So. [00:01:19] Speaker B: And then there's a lot of logistics like getting your ISBN number and your ABN number. So I'm sort of starting to work [00:01:27] Speaker A: on those kind of things now, all that library stuff. So how long have you been working on the book? [00:01:36] Speaker B: Probably a lot of the first draft I did in 2022 and just put it down thinking I'm going to pick it up straight away in 2023, but ended up going to Africa three times instead. Dead. So it just couldn't touch it. There was just too much preparing for conferences and, and plus the church. So this year I picked it up, second draft, and hopefully I'll get the whole lot finished by August. That's what I'm. That's what I'd like to see happen. [00:02:08] Speaker A: And research. You do a bit of research? Yeah. Now is the research happening at the same time that you're writing or as you, you do all your research? And then both. [00:02:20] Speaker B: I found before I started writing I did a whole lot of research and just threw it into folders and I didn't realize how much I had. So I thought, oh no, I need to start with this. And now it's as you go along. But it's not just research. It's a whole lot of different ways that I just get a thought or something comes to me and I just, I have so many notebooks where I've got scribbles on and I take the notebooks, take them home and I just start injecting that needs to go there and that there and that there and just get that thought rolling. [00:02:50] Speaker A: Thank goodness for computers, eh? Whoa. The great thing about computers is you can sort of even switch things around, [00:03:00] Speaker B: switch things, cut and paste. I love it. [00:03:02] Speaker A: Yeah, all good. Yeah. Now you've come to bring us a food for thought for today, Lynn. [00:03:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I was, I was actually thinking of actually just talking about the Bible itself as a book because many people who are not Christians just see it as a Christian thing and don't realize it, that we know it's the word of God. But when you think about the Bible as a book, men will say, oh, it's just a book written by man. But there are so many facts about the Bible itself that people don't know. For example, Bible has over 63,000 cross references. Now a mathematician would say that, that many cross references. If it was written by one man, that man would be the greatest composer that ever lived. But we've got 63,000 cross references written by 40 men. And those 40 men lived over a 1500 year period. So the odds of, if the odds of one man is like the greatest composer that ever lived, the odds of 40 men over 1500 years is like impossible. Except there's some kind of divine aspect here, some, some divine intervention. The Bible was also these men, they were, they weren't men of the same. They were men from different cultures. They were men from different, completely different ways of life. Some of them were men who wrote in war periods, some of them were men who wrote as nomads, some of them were men who wrote in exile, others under monarchy. So that not just the kind of person, but also the who they were and where they lived politically, economically, culturally, all of that was completely different. And yet in the Bible there's an incredible consistency. It just does not contradict itself. And none of these men could have copied because the Bible, if you even think about just the four Gospels, the Gospels didn't start being written till 40 years after Christ died. And then they were written over the next century, the next hundred years with different focus from the different authors. But the Bible itself, it's got 66 books and it is a book. If you just look at it as a book, that has been the best selling book ever. It has sold over 5 billion copies. It's the only book I know that has been translated into half the world's languages. So I guess the food for thought is, hey, if you've never read the Bible, you might want to look at this also. Historically, the Bible, at the time the Bible was written, history, Joseph, Flavius, Josephus Flavius. For the Jews and for the Romans, Tacitus. History records objectively. History is supposed to be objective. Recording records objectively. These things happened. These things happened, yes. So I guess I wanted to talk about the Bible because I think a mindset has developed where people just shut down what they hear here, just the word Bible, and yet the shutdown occurs out of something that's. I don't know what. Certainly I can't put a name to it because I don't think it's just one name. But the shutdown occurs without even considering. How about having a look at this book, for example? And I think I might have shared this from a different context before when I used to do business coaching and I had a whole lot of executives from different pharmacy groups throughout Perth doing a training, and I decided that I would put little sayings from the Book of Proverbs into a little bucket. So at the end of the training, each leader had to pick a proverb and then they had to. Because the Bible is full of many, many themes. Themes about leadership, about authority, about marriage, about. About nature, about government, about so many things. Proverbs is called a book of wisdom, and it literally has a lot of wisdom about life itself, a lot of good insight and guidance about it. So each leader, as they read the proverb, was asked to relate it to what they just learned. What is this saying about what you've just learned? And they're sort of like going, wow, wow. And then I'm hearing people going, where is this? Where did you get this from? And I said, it's the Book of Proverbs in the Bible, it's called the Book of Wisdom. And you know that your eyes just open up again and you realize fresh. Like people have never. They've never read what we've read, they've not looked at what we've looked at. Whether in the end you believe or not, it's a book that's well worth reading. It's a book that's well worth looking at. But the fact that it's also divinely inspired, it's a book that God can speak to you through even. Even if you don't think he can or don't want To. He will speak to you through it, and you'll know it's him because it'll touch your heart. It'll bypass your mind. That which is of the spirit will touch your heart. [00:08:47] Speaker A: Yes. [00:08:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:49] Speaker A: And of course, one of the famous lawyers who thought he was going to disprove the Bible, C.S. lewis, in fact, convinced himself of the truth of it. [00:09:02] Speaker B: And we've heard that story many, many times as well. And then you've got someone like Charles Finney, who was also a lawyer. He was. Many, many people were coming to the Lord through his ministry. But having read a lot of his work, he was convicted by God because God spoke to him. Well, what about your own kind? And it was. None of the lawyers were coming. None of the lawyers were being affected by Charles Finney's ministry. So Charles Finney decided. So what God said to him was like meets like. So he decided that he was going to call a conference just for the lawyers. And he used legal terms and legal language to decipher the Gospel and bring an understanding of the gospel. And 300 lawyers got saved that day simply because he. And I think that's a lot of what's happening, the Bible. Some people may think it's a language that they don't understand. But what I would encourage people is the Bible is written in many different translations. Don't be concerned. Find a translation that you gel with. I understand it when I read this and read the Bible. And it can also be. Some may think it's not understandable because of a cultural setting. But the truths of the Bible are beyond cultural setting. They're universal. Yeah. We're not limited to the culture there. Certainly, if we dig deeper, we gain a greater understanding, but we're not limited by not knowing the culture. [00:10:32] Speaker A: What I find amazing is that you'll be reading a passage of scripture that you've read hundreds of times before, and all of a sudden, oh, yes, I didn't see that there before. [00:10:44] Speaker B: That's right. [00:10:46] Speaker A: It never ceases to amaze me. [00:10:48] Speaker B: Yeah. So I would call for maybe a seeker, someone who's seeking. I would call the Bible a book of incredible divine guidance and instruction. And I guess probably the question I would leave people with is, do you want simply to have a life of full independence and freedom, trusting your own wisdom and counsel, or do you want to have divine guidance that doesn't limit your independence and freedom, but brings you into a creative freedom that does have boundaries? Because those boundaries keep you safe and guard and guide your life unto life, unto goodness, unto all that is for your well being. But in a world that we live in today, a lot of people see independence and freedom, which the Bible would call lawlessness, as just doing what I want, when I want, how I want, but it literally leads to destruction. [00:11:49] Speaker A: One of the words you used there would be very unpopular these days and that's boundaries. I remember I used to be involved in Boys Brigade and there was a lot of discipline involved in Boys Brigade regimentation. And I remember being being criticized and because there's sort of. There was boundaries and I said, well, young people feel safe when they know they've got boundaries. They know that if they operate within these boundaries, nothing's. They're going to be safe. [00:12:30] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:30] Speaker A: If they move outside those boundaries, that's where the trouble starts. [00:12:35] Speaker B: That's right. [00:12:35] Speaker A: And so it gives young people a very strong feeling of safety. [00:12:41] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:12:42] Speaker A: When they've got boundaries in their life. [00:12:44] Speaker B: Yeah. And I think, to be quite honest, you know, the Bible says that the Father who loves us and he's good, he will discipline us because. Because he always disciplines us for our good. And I remember my children, I remember when, in fact, when I was a teenager, my parents would not let us do half the things that some of the teenagers were doing. We never fought it because we didn't really have that desire. But I remember at the end of my year 12, when we were all ready to disperse into the world, a few of those ones came up to my sister and I because I'm a twin and we were together, a few of those people came up and they said, we really envy you. And I said, why? And they said, because your parents love you enough to not let you do some of the things our parents let us do. And I thought, wow. And that was coming in. Even though they were doing it, something deep inside told it didn't make them feel loved because they didn't have the boundary that cared for them. Yeah. [00:13:48] Speaker A: Hopefully things will sort of turn around. And if you look at history well, as you've been doing, when a society moves so far away from God, it just disintegrates. [00:14:06] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:14:07] Speaker A: And people then sort of turn back to God. [00:14:10] Speaker B: They do. And sometimes it has to go into what I would call almost mud and vomit before that happens. Because it's hard for people to discover and actually face the fact that this is the wrong way because their life has been invested in it. And it can be hard to go. I let go for a new way and actually humble yourself in a sense really to that new way as well. But the Holy Spirit Knows how to draw people. [00:14:37] Speaker A: Yes. And because sometimes we get frustrated because we minister to people and there's no response. And I always have to sort of stop and think, well, it's the Holy. They're only going to change when the Holy Spirit changes their heart. [00:14:58] Speaker B: Yes. [00:14:59] Speaker A: Because we've got no power to change a person's heart, only the Holy Spirit does. And that's the only way things are going to change. [00:15:09] Speaker B: And we just have to really, really remember. Called a seed. A seed, a watering, a watering and a harvest, a harvesting. That's all we're asked to do. Sow, seed, water and harvest. [00:15:21] Speaker A: Absolutely. So when can we expect to see this book of yours? [00:15:28] Speaker B: Hopefully by the end of the year. I'd like to have it all signed, sealed and delivered, as I said, by August. That's what I'm aiming for. And so hopefully by the end of the year it will be available. [00:15:40] Speaker A: So you've had people sort of proofreading and all this sort of thing, have you? Or is it not that stage yet? [00:15:45] Speaker B: I'm just in the place. It's a very. It's a very vulnerable thing. [00:15:50] Speaker A: Yes. [00:15:50] Speaker B: So I'm just in the place of discussing with certain people. Can I start to see. Send you the second draft manuscript for your feedback? Because I want to get completely different kinds of people and one of them, who I'm going to be asking soon, was actually a West Australian newspaper journalist who's a Christian. And I thought, I know he's going to be really hard on me. So I sort of like taking a deep breath and going, would you look at my manuscript, please? Yeah. [00:16:19] Speaker A: And then I guess you've got to promote it. Is that the word? [00:16:27] Speaker B: Leave that to the Lord. [00:16:28] Speaker A: Okay, [00:16:30] Speaker B: this is what I say. It was very clear to me that God wanted me to write the book. I didn't want to. It's very clear. He confirmed it many, many times in very supernatural ways. And to the point that I had two prophetesses from Botswana who I didn't know from a bar of soap. I attended a conference, met them for the first time. One of them comes up to me, arms folded like this. For people who can't see me, I'm folding my arms, arms folded, and she looked at me and she went, well. And I'm going, yes. And she says, where's the book? And I'm going, oh, my God. So it was just like that. Was that final? Lord, you've confirmed it so much. I just need to. So I'm doing this out of obedience. I'm doing it Because God wants me to. So I say to the Lord, you started this. You can finish it if you started it. You give me the pen of a ready writer, but you are the one to open the doors where you want it to go. So he will either tell me some things or he won't, but I leave it with him until he speaks. [00:17:31] Speaker A: And did you find sometimes that in the writing that it just sort of flowed out of you and sort of almost absolutely never to return? [00:17:41] Speaker B: Almost absolutely. And other times it flows and then you feel stuck and you go, I don't quite know where to go from here. Then off you go, you leave it, and there's something happens. You see a sign or you read a phrase or something, and you go, oh, that's my connecting thought. And you. You enter that in and boom, the rest of it comes. Yeah. Yeah. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Well, we're certainly looking forward to it. And when the book comes out, you'll have to come in and promote it on the radio. [00:18:11] Speaker B: Yes, I'd love to. Thank you. [00:18:13] Speaker A: So thank you very much for coming in today, and we'll look forward to seeing you. We will see you before the end of the year. [00:18:21] Speaker B: No, Yeah, I think I'm on again in three months. I think I'm on again in July. [00:18:25] Speaker A: Okay. [00:18:26] Speaker B: And then November. [00:18:27] Speaker A: Yeah, Sounds good to me. [00:18:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:28] Speaker A: Thanks very much, Lynn. Bye. Coming to you from Rockingham IPO Radio.